If Socrates and Leonardo Da Vinci were alive today today and decided to build a collaborative website with their friend William Blake to innovate education into edupunk and make money doing it … How’d they go about it? We wanted to find out so we hacked their etherchat-channel. Sadly, William wasn’t logged in.
Socrates: Some of my own thinking go along the lines of a simple gamification of contributer content, building on our meme ‘that which is most recent is your pitch, that which is current is your product, that which is old is your brand’…
Leonardo: I like it
Socrates: Most recent 3 entries are free. Then up to 3 categories of weekly webinars (individually user defined subscription/payment system) are paid. All older material (and raw source files) are also free (some with and some without subscrption)
Socrates: “The past is your brand, the present your pitch and the future your project.”
Socrates: /product/artwork/whatever
Socrates: Open source business. Trialogues are simply behind-the-scenes brainstorms
Leonardo: we need a means by which we can become a trusted provider of content such that our ideas carry weight and recognition, in the same way that academics who contribute to wikipedia are now being looked upon favourably
Socrates: Contributors, collaborators and colleagues coalesce, confidently combining cool creative computercapabilities.
Socrates: Something somesuch
Leonardo: community reciprocality, like this (http://flattr.com) but for social capital
Leonardo: in fact flattr is similar to http://togethr.at
Socrates: Man once, we combine the first decent example of all these ideas we can sell just the knowledge. Many people will only consider switching to a complete new wave system when it is demonstrated to them
Leonardo: zactly, nothing speaks louder than success
Leonardo: combine these ideas with your civic experiment and boom
Leonardo: breaking news: we’ve created a new model for civilization
Socrates: LOL. Scoop.it!
Socrates: There must be many like us, now that people are more naturally connecting. We are probably, as a group, well ahead of the game – but we are also sometimes (in that regard) maybe too early on the ball (or we may become, with approprite audience). Also. There are so many people having great ideas and starting new projects out there. Totally semantic overload. Whether designed agenda (unlike) or approaching similary, we (as a humanity) seem to do a lot to drown each other out
Socrates: Maybe it’s just an effect of urbanisation, hybridization and matrixification
Leonardo: we are certainly “niche” and it hard in a lot of cases to articulate the clarity of a vision needed to influence enough people
Leonardo: I mean just look at Terrence McKenna
Leonardo: he was way ahead of his time
Leonardo: his ideas make more sense today than they did back in the 80′s and 90′s
Leonardo: given the ground that our group is traversing I think what may be of key importance is actually location
Leonardo: both online and offline
Socrates: Interesting. More?
Leonardo: different places have different infrastructures which ultimately affect peoples understanding of their enviornments and what can and can’t be done
Leonardo: i had a mushroom trip that got me thinking about cultural evolution
Leonardo: ofc. it is happening fastest where information flows are fastest
Leonardo: i.e. twitter is the engine of culture (memes) in some sense
Leonardo: but offline it is cities where people are evolving fastest (culturally)
Socrates: Ahhyes
Leonardo: given the discussion I had with William about economics and corporate protectionism I actually think that think kind of futuristic cities we’ve read about may well appear in unexpected places
Leonardo: case in point… Chile
Leonardo: really big on future tech right now
Leonardo: and space industry
Leonardo: lots of natural resources
Socrates: I hadn’t at all kept apraised of that. Thanks
Socrates: Something to build on… for sure
Leonardo: anywho, as Steve Keen said… “politics is too important for politicians and economics is too important for economists”… as europeans shipwrecked with leaders who are running us into oblivion the pressure is on ordinary people to self-organize and create a new society from the ground up
Leonardo: it’s not that we are in competition with them
Leonardo: but rather they will not act unless the people do
Leonardo: the vision has to come from the people
Leonardo: not the state or corporations
Socrates: SPOT ON
Leonardo: 4th sector hybrids are the way to go
Leonardo: social enterprise / co-operatives etc
Leonardo: in light of “technological unemployment” the stability of society depends upon wealth redistribution
Leonardo: we are already in the singularity (the curve atleast)
Leonardo: we are already experiencing the effects
Socrates: Yep. I feel it a little more each day. It’s almost become the hardest thing to believe that one will just live each and every day through it, learning a little more, loving and longing and that all the incredible things will seem like ‘sure, ofc its already here’ when we hear they already happened 
Leonardo: yep, it’s amazing. I was watching a review of news from 2011 today and was thinking how it is only going to get more erratic
Leonardo: mckenna was spot on with that assumption
Leonardo: we are riding the wave of novelty
Socrates: Yep. Dream up a newboard and you’re set.
Socrates: One of the points I mentioned in a previous video: If there is a novelty attractor, then the not only most holistic strategy, but also the one with the greates universal change of longevity would be to tunee in and ride those flows, transforming as much as we can
Leonardo: absolutely and we can see this happening already if you look at the propensity of information to free itself from control. A living system needs diversity to be healthy
Leonardo: our evolution into the translinguistic substrate is through the emerging lifeform of the internet
Leonardo: and by choice it excludes none
Socrates: “We are anonymous” explained
Leonardo: if the internet can be viewed as a superorganism then it is beyond control
Leonardo: you cannot create superintelligene and lock it away
Leonardo: it is omnipresent
Socrates: It is indeed
Leonardo: I think we will see some rather interesting iRobot situations appear within our lifetime
Leonardo: suddenly the AI will decide to upgrade the energy system of the planet into 100% renewable energy for example
Leonardo: it could happen very quickly with super AI
Leonardo: as we become more transhuman the danger to human life is actually computer viruses
Leonardo: imagine having a virus which destroyed your cerebral implants
Leonardo: nanovirus
Leonardo: I also think that another interesting thing to think about is surveillance
Leonardo: we are the watchman watching the watchmen
Leonardo: “the transparent society”
Leonardo: even governments can’t hide
Leonardo: they are rendered obsolete by their habitual ways of deceit
Leonardo: people self-police through AI and collective intelligence
Leonardo: panarchy
Leonardo: the main force obstructing this is corporatism imo
Leonardo: in fact corporatism is a loaded gun pointed at the face of the planet
Socrates: ‘Nuff said
In this dialogue Miles and Jakob cover the general points online scientists, artists, companies and startups needs to be aware of when opting to become internationally future ready. Use the slideshow to choose the headline and watch the video which best suits your business paradigm. If you haven’t had enough from the seven clips below then watch the end of the dialogue discusssing the immediate future here.
In this dialogue Aaron Hawkins connects the dots behind his successful youtube channel – Storm Clouds Gathering. Aaron shares some extremely frank perspectives on his own backgroud, explains some of his tactics and evaluation tools for developing his channel and gets into his view on the current global situation. We believe Aaron’s voice is extremely relevant and his channel is well worth checking out, especially if you are independently interested in the fields of geopolitics, economics and civic self-development (and you believe that you can handle the truth).
Editors note: There were several technical difficulties involved in recording this skype videocall with Aaron. The last 5th of our discussion was completely lost and the remaining file was corrupted so that only Aarons audiostream survived intact. Because he did most of the talking, this was less of a problem, even though there was a strange feedback on his audio (which seemed to abate somehow, whenever he touched his mouse). To do the content justice (and respect the time Aaron put into this), I attempted to create this new genre of online video ‘Narralogue’, simply by googling for images which would counterpoint the topics progressively covered througout the conversation. We claim no rights to anything and extend our gratitude to everyone else sharing this open source internet. Below is the youtube teaser as well as the first 21 minutes of the recorded dialogue, which we were able to extricate from the corrupted file.
Soul Uniteds infojulegave er i år et spoken word review af det seneste afsnit af årets bedste hjemmelavede edupunk. I 2011 har Juice Media sat en inspirerende ny standard for uafhængigt produceret online video genreblanding. I en evig leg med ord, billeder og kardinalmémer sat til ørehængende beats formår de at opgradere kaliteten af deres materiale fra afsnit til afsnit. Underholdningsværdien er mindst ligeså høj, som relevansen af de spørgsmål de stiller i løbet af deres velredigerede micro-doc-newscast-rapsoaps.
Deres materiale er særligt målrettet erfarne brugere af internettet og kan derfor virke overdrevet i sin velkomponerethed. Men vi mener Giordano Nanni og Hugo Farrant (aka Robert Foster) virkelig forstår den tid vi lever i og formår at spille på mange af de rigtige arketypiske stemmer fra den kollektive underbevidsthed. Baggrunden for showet er beskrevet i Media Roots. De eneste kritikpunkter vi har tilbage efter de har gjort alt deres materiale creative commons og fået gjort undertekster tilgængelige er at de ikke har lagt mere behind-the-scenes materiale ud på nettet. Ville du ikke gerne kunne tage et kig med ind i deres editing-room?
Soul United is growing. Below is the audiolog of our first, 4-way, partner skype conference as an example of a new level of open source business. As those who have been to this site before know it it still under construction and many of the sub-menu pages still need to be filled out with the translated content from the Danish site: soulunited.dk. In that regard it matches the development process of Soul United well. Starting today the sandboxing is over. This is when we start filling in the blanks.
Agenda 2011/early 2012:
- Miles is going to make a demonstration of a virtual office (which we cover in the first part of the meeting), after he is done creating his latest series on perspectives for social economics of the future.
- Anders is going to project manage the recording of a series of professional interviews with prominent, Danish leaders, artists and innovators. We believe we have now amply demonstrated how easily and cheaply interviews can be conducted both online and IRL using the cheapest possible technology and minimal editing. Now we are going to produce a documentary on the potentials for implementing more sustainable systemic solutions, based on Denmark’s uniquely privileged situation in the world.
- Pelle is going to focus on getting this very webpage up to speed which includes translating textbits from the Danish webpage, restructuring the menu system and polishing off the rough edges. He is also working with a couple of other social innovateurs in setting up a ‘getting future ready’ course for local unemployed people, incorporating a lot of the knowledge we have compiled on the Danish Webpage.
- Jakob is going to continue networking potential partners as well as keeping up his research into what’s just now slipping over the event horizon of possible future outcomes. This includes working out the details of coming projects like Soulstones, Sustainable Activism and the allocation of incoming funds.
Some related links from Miles’ research:
http://100trillion.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/connection-context-strength-in-social-networks/
Stefan Kengen and Pelle Esbensen discuss the Zeitgeist Movement (ZGM), information overload, online self-studies and concerned citizenship. Stefan shares some of his insights from his years of producing free online media for Zeitgeist. He also clears up some common misconceptions concerning ZGM, the movies themselves, the Venus Project and Peter Joseph himself. If you don’t have any prior knowledge of any of these concepts then this dialogue is also an excellent place to start getting a grip on what’s been shaking the other end of the web.
Throughout the dialogue Stefan and I discover great common ground and try to refine the principles upon which we would like to enable more people to help each other move forward. The trailer is public on our youtube channel, the entire dialogue only through the link to the right above. Enjoy.
